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楼主 #1 2019-03-07 17:55:10

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从淘宝网购买时要小心

我只是想从淘宝购买一些W5500模块。找到合适的报价 - 免运费。订单时,运费出现了。我联系了卖家,最初他说会提供免费送货,后来不同意。

W5500

W5500

淘宝没有投诉形式来投诉这些卖家。

我还没有找到适合中国境外出口的运输公司。 Yundaex(www.yundaex.com)被推荐给我,但他们没有英文联系信息。有人使用他们的服务?

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#2 2019-03-07 17:58:30

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中国有全世界最密集的高速公路和高铁,全国范围内包邮很正常。

看来你对  "全国" 这个词可能有误解
不是指"全部国家",
而是 "中国全境"

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#3 2019-03-07 18:02:45

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淘宝有投诉入口,但是你这种情况淘宝客服肯定是偏向卖家。

十多块的东西包邮到全球,不存在的。

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楼主 #4 2019-03-07 22:10:04

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山无棱 说:

看来你对  "全国" 这个词可能有误解
不是指"全部国家",
而是 "中国全境"

不太确定谁不理解,但让我告诉你另一个淘宝骗子活动:购买2件。对于W5500模块,购买时显示的金额为¥32,之后(如上所示)此金额为¥34。

Taobao cart

你在中国有消费者保护组织吗?我可以抱怨。我对淘宝和中国航运服务非常不满意?

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#5 2019-03-07 22:18:32

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很负责任告诉你,卖家的表述没有任何问题,广东深圳至全国快递包邮,其他地区按卖家设置的邮费。


就是告到联合国都没有什么用

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#6 2019-03-07 22:35:37

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这个可以找taobao官网,‘’全国‘’的解释权在谁,这肯定是中国境内。也许解释权在你手上,那可以要求taobao免单
16+18=34,这个是有点促销手段,首件优惠2.00,人家订单写的很清楚了

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#7 2019-03-07 22:38:22

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Mitko 说:
山无棱 说:

看来你对  "全国" 这个词可能有误解
不是指"全部国家",
而是 "中国全境"

不太确定谁不理解,但让我告诉你另一个淘宝骗子活动:购买2件。对于W5500模块,购买时显示的金额为¥32,之后(如上所示)此金额为¥34。

https://whycan.cn/files/members/667/Tao_3.jpg

你在中国有消费者保护组织吗?我可以抱怨。我对淘宝和中国航运服务非常不满意?

拜托,请仔细看清楚,原价是18元,然后他给你首件优惠价格是16元,第二件开始是原价,所以你买两件的时候变成16+18=34了。这种销售模式是淘宝最近流行的方式,让你买少量样品更划算,商家算是低利润做推广

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#8 2019-03-08 10:03:15

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Re: 从淘宝网购买时要小心

这个是正常的,楼上已经说了,首件优惠

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#9 2019-03-08 13:47:44

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关于邮费的问题,楼主寄往国外是走转运公司的,是先发往国内的转运公司再发往国外的,淘宝的邮费是走到转运公司的邮费,理应包邮才对。

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楼主 #10 2019-03-08 15:18:15

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duckduckgo 说:

这个是正常的,楼上已经说了,首件优惠

我不认为正常,首先显示的价格为32元人民币,之后为34元人民币。但根据你的回答,我得出的结论是,我根本不应该与中国打交道。许多中国人都是对交易行为,法律等有非常不了解的骗子。

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#11 2019-03-08 15:29:28

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我也是这么觉得,中国太危险了到处都是骗子,顺便问下楼上的朋友,你的键盘是什么牌子的?

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楼主 #12 2019-03-08 15:45:54

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smartcar 说:

我也是这么觉得,中国太危险了到处都是骗子,顺便问下楼上的朋友,你的键盘是什么牌子的?

如果你的意思是我的笔记本电脑 -  IBM在中国人收购联想并制造劣质产品之前,这是一个很好的品牌。
你知道如果中国是动物坏的危险地方,那么应该将它们放在笼子里。在世界上的某些地方,中国人必须缴纳人头税......也许这些做法应该归还。

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#13 2019-03-08 15:55:46

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Mitko 说:
smartcar 说:

我也是这么觉得,中国太危险了到处都是骗子,顺便问下楼上的朋友,你的键盘是什么牌子的?

如果你的意思是我的笔记本电脑 -  IBM在中国人收购联想并制造劣质产品之前,这是一个很好的品牌。
你知道如果中国是动物坏的危险地方,那么应该将它们放在笼子里。在世界上的某些地方,中国人必须缴纳人头税......也许这些做法应该归还。

是的,在中国也有一群像你这样的  "键盘侠",
仗着自己用的是IBM的键盘,
整天没事到网上瞎鸡巴乱喷。

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楼主 #14 2019-03-08 16:34:41

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@smartcar,你是一个非常傲慢的人,但我也认为我真的在这个论坛上浪费时间,同时继续浪费我与中国骗子打交道的时间。

@晕哥,请删除我的帐户我不想与中国有任何关系,也不与任何中国事务有任何关联。

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#15 2019-03-08 16:59:34

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虽然你学了几句汉语,但是永远都不会理解中华文化的"宽容别人的过错,同时严格要求自己"。

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楼主 #16 2019-03-08 18:01:04

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@jimmy, 中国文化 - 如何欺骗,撒谎......不,谢谢,不需要学习这样的文化。我对中国人有足够的宽容,但中国人想要的是更多钱,卖掉他们的假冒和垃圾产品。不用了,谢谢。

@晕哥,等待我的帐户被删除。

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楼主 #17 2019-03-09 15:46:18

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正如您可能从主题中注意到的那样:https://whycan.cn/t_2021.html,我遇到了财务损失,因为shipforwarder.com。我有一些抱怨,因此www.shipforwarder.com说我收回了我的账户并阻止了它。我的仓库里还有以下物品:

Parts 3D Printer

我不喜欢浪费,我愿意免费将这些物品交给任何有兴趣的人。该人必须向中国境内的shipforwarder.com支付运输费。如果您有兴趣,发布消息,我会联系shipforwarder.com。

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楼主 #18 2019-03-26 02:57:22

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我今天尝试用shipforwarder.com解决问题。关于他们声称PayPal撤回资金,以下是PayPal的回复:

In relations to these two payments, I can confirm that we have not withdrawn any of these payments, and no money has been refunded. To prevent problems with merchants shipping from China, please make sure to properly review the website and investigate what country they ship from.

不好意思,但上面的产品被这家骗子中国公司封锁了。

不幸的是,我试图找到另一家航运公司似乎不成功。我目前遇到与Yoybuy.com类似的问题。他们在实际确定包装重量之前需要钱。

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#19 2019-03-26 14:25:30

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Mitko, you misunderstood.
About the price,  there a promotion named "首件折扣", mean that if you buy only one, price is ¥16. but if you buy two, the second is ¥18, so finally ¥16+¥18=¥34.

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楼主 #20 2019-03-26 16:15:11

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dgtg, And how I misunderstood that the shown total amount 32 CNY becomes later 34 CNY ? This is not the only problem with Taobao.

Also those postage forwarding companies – quite of crooks and liars.

Have one question, I asked someone before to ship to me some items from China, he had quite of problems. In fact, in the past there were many that would agree to ship outside of China, currently no one agrees. In China shipping abroad products is reserved just for some people and companies ? In Europe, to the best of my understanding some Chinese pay to the corrupted law enforcement officials bribes they to operate. Common practice in China ?

最近编辑记录 Mitko (2019-03-26 17:40:19)

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#21 2019-03-26 16:49:50

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中国人口十三亿,比欧洲加起来还多,出几个败类不是很正常嘛,
对啊,我承认中国人确实很多人违反法律,违反道德,违反商业伦理,
但是我们一天比一天进步,
相信总有一天会成为和谐社会。

如果按照人口比例,
我相信欧洲的喷子/键盘侠不必中国少!

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楼主 #22 2019-12-27 02:53:07

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@smartcar, this is a problem associate particularly with the ship-forwarding companies. So far I tried 3 companies – all crooks and liars. Twice lost the items I purchased … they extorted me to pay for something that suppose to be free etc.

The latest, I have in a Beijing warehouse packages that weight about 14.300 kg. This crook company called YOYbuy established that after packing the total weight of the package is 19 kg. Almost 5 kg – packaging materials !!! Also they want money in advance …

From some of the post and behavior of the forum, I do understand that some Chinese think that they can do crook activities, involved with such unethical business practices and we the dumb Eastern Europeans have to pay you ?

I inquired many times the Chinese government, even the Chinese police they did nothing about the issues.

Although China has 1.3B people, the whole world is much bigger and would like to assure you that proper measures can be taken against China.

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#23 2019-12-27 08:38:38

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我们的竞争对手公司用虚假参数宣传自己的产品,并在国外赚取了大量的钱,我像你一样愤怒。中国确实存在这种骗钱的人,但毕竟那是少数,全世界都存在这样的人,请勿以此来诋毁中国!

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楼主 #24 2019-12-28 14:37:16

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@gui401, This company continues to lie and when I raised the case with PayPal they locked the account …  Sorry, but measures will be taken.

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#25 2019-12-28 19:12:56

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The Internet is not illegal. Friends, when you make a speech, you must not bring racial discrimination. The Chinese always like to make friends with people. Do not attach such deep colored glasses.
网络并非法外之地,朋友,请你发表言论的时候,莫要带着种族歧视,中国人向来喜欢与人友交,切莫附带如此之深的有色眼镜。

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#26 2019-12-28 19:22:15

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Of course, there is no denying that some platforms bring convenience to people. At the same time, there are some unexpected sales methods that may bring you losses.

当然不否认,某些平台给人带来便捷额同时,存在一些预料之外的销售手段,可能给你带来损失。

When we buy things, we basically don't make this mistake. Maybe it is because of the d language inconvenience, which has brought you loss and inconvenience, but we have an old saying called "eat a meal, grow a wisdom." I hope you can learn a lesson.
我们购买东西的时候,基本上不会犯这种错误。也许是由于语言不通,给你带来了损失和不便,但是我们有一句老话叫做"吃一埑,长一智。"希望你能够吸取教训。
For me, I also cannot understand the language. The English part comes from Google Translate, which may make you misunderstand.
对于我,我也是语言不通,英文部分来源于Google翻译,也许会让你误解意思。

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楼主 #27 2019-12-28 20:35:54

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@LinjieGuo,

In Bulgaria, there is a very well know story, about a local banker that was tricked by some foreigner who tough can make easy money, do not comply will local customs etc. The Bulgarian banker released a wave of discrimination against the foreigners and the case was settle.

Racism is a tool to keep people who are less educated about a state laws and rules … on their place.

I might loose couple of hundreds of euros, but you going to loose billions.

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#28 2019-12-29 13:14:25

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美国人拿着印的废纸来中国买东西,那不叫骗,那是明抢。

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#29 2019-12-29 16:37:02

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You'd batter to learn Chinese rather than complaining at here
if you think Chinese are dishonest, I recommend you shut up and fuck off.

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楼主 #30 2019-12-29 21:31:37

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@SmallJu,

Your comment is insulting.
I requested multiple times, my account to be closed. Unfortunately, the site administrators are not willing to close it.
As about Chinese, not perspective language. I’m terminating all my dealings with China.
P.S. Saw the project you published – go get some engineering training.

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#31 2019-12-30 13:43:37

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真在乎那么几块钱,还不如去闲鱼呢.
好好的规则摆在那里,硬说有问题...理由千千万,其实就一个字,穷!!!
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#32 2019-12-30 15:16:29

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Re: 从淘宝网购买时要小心

网站管理员关不关你的账户和你有什么关系???你不来不就行了??还一直在这发帖,没完没了。

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#33 2019-12-30 17:11:38

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这老外这么固执,淘宝很多都是商品都是首件优惠+包邮的,一边享受着中国的价格还要求美国的服务

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楼主 #34 2019-12-30 18:42:06

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@savebox, It is, but what is poorer: Got a message today from the ship-forwarding company, they continue to attempt tricks …

@迪卡, Not so sure what is the reason 晕哥, not to want to close the account. There is some misunderstanding, he thinks I am a teacher at some university, which I am not … I do not have much deeper knowledge about the Chinese culture … In India, it has been said that if a story doesn’t end well, it has not finished yet. How about China ?

@netwp, When I studied Chinese, I had a dispute with one of the teachers about the meaning of white tiger in Chinese. I probably do not have to explain what its commonly referred in China, but it does have other meanings too ...

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#35 2019-12-30 23:48:53

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全国
All countries ❌
Within China ✅

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#36 2019-12-31 00:53:24

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Some friend of mine shared this topic so I registered a new account for some clarifications.
You felt deceived because you can't read Chinese. That's fine. If you don't want to admit it, that's also, fine.
This is usually the point where you should either look for other sellers, with or without visiting taobao.
However, you found this forum, used google translate just to say "you Chinese people are all liars", THAT'S where this problem becomes a problem.
You clearly shouldn't do that.
Please, change a point of view.
Yes, many of us Chinese want to make money, a lot of them, and a lot among them trick, and even deceive others to achieve this. There are historical reasons (around 100 years from today?) why this happen. So don't be aggressive, for you are not spectating the game. You are a gamer with only limited sight.
btw, you should use aliexpress instead of taobao in this case. Taobao is a Chinese-oriented market.

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#37 2019-12-31 01:09:22

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@Mitko if you want to delete your account, you should be contacting admin@whycan.cn instead of complaining here.
I'm personally annoyed by your words.
a quick link for you:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000430920601.html
W5500 module for 2.33 USD each, shipping fees are labeled in English, and new users get a 2 USD coupon, at least for users in US.

[Edit]
for the gods sake, there are W5500 modules even on the amazon!
how on earth did you learn to use google translate without learning how to google!??

最近编辑记录 KfAnr (2019-12-31 01:20:35)

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楼主 #38 2019-12-31 06:11:17

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@KfAnr,

Is this available the web sites you mention:

Hi3516EV200a

Hi3516EV200b

Note: Hi3516EV200 SDK is only in Chinese, waiting for response from HiSilicon if they will provide English version etc.

The package that is currently held by YoYBuy has 23 Taobao purchases with probably more than 200 articles etc.

Already sent request to admin@whycan.cn for account deletion. Might I ask you to sent e-mail to admin@whycan.cn presenting your dissatisfaction. Hope this matter will be resolved as soon as possible. It took me more than 2 months to make all orders etc.

P.S. What is the meaning of KfAnr ?

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#39 2019-12-31 10:31:55

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000397254049.html
I'm not sure if this is the thing you need, but this showed up as the first entry when I searched for "Hi3516EV200 aliexpress" on Google.

When I looked for the SDK, I found this https://dl.openipc.org/SDK/HiSilicon/Hi3516Ev200_16Ev300_18Ev300/
I haven't verified the contents, have some school deadlines to finish up.
LiteOS seems to be maintaining English version manuals for their SDKs on GitHub, might be what you want.

resources for embedded systems are truly hard to find...

my nickname is scrambled word of my original nick. it's meaningless.

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@KfAnr , Actually, it seems you might have a better use of this board than me. It was provided to me from zhenfanhei for free. Assume he would not have anything against if it is given to you. Schematic:  hq_050ips_v02.pdf

If you are interested I will arrange the shipping to you.

Aliexpress services are horrible. The last time I made an order from Aliexpress I waited about 2 months to receive the products etc.

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..I don't need it for now...
有人要这个板子么?

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@ KfAnr,
My problems with YoYBuy (https://www.yoybuy.com) continue. This is crook and lying company that should be investigated by the Chinese authorities. Since you claim that the Chinese are not liars, which Chinese authority – police, consumer bureau … can investigate the activities of this company and take appropriate actions ?

@ 晕哥, I really would like this account deleted.

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这么执着?也就几十块钱的东西,有这时间在论坛里抱怨,还不如多花点时间做好产品,这样你可以挣更多的钱,从这点来看,你是个办事效率很低的人。我们的论坛管理员晕哥很佛系,不随便踢人,不随便删帖子,不随便删账号,你如果不想用这个论坛,不登录进来就是了。话说你们在国外是用的什么即时聊天工具进行技术交流?在我们中国有微信、QQ、钉钉等。

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@hzqlz,

I am not much knowledgeable about Buddhism, but on Internet what I found:

Buddhists have to make themselves aware of the damage they do to the environment so that they can then act to change it.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t China is one of the biggest world environmental polluter ?

The name Mitko is a short form of Dimitar. It is rooted in the Greek goddess Earth mother Demeter, who is rooted in the ancient goddess Earth Mother. The short form Mitko is used just by friends.

There is currently global warming, trading and other types of issues with China ... I do not consider China my friend, neither there is any trend in direction of improving the situation.

There are laws: engineering, trading … since you continue to demand that those laws should not be followed, the environment issues … not considered, I would like the account to be deleted.

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The language barrier deepens the misunderstanding.Please don't discussed such topic on tech forum.

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楼主言语之间一直存在种族歧视,叫别人删号删帖的行为纯属是‘脱裤子放屁’,像你这种人,跟你讲道理便东扯西扯,骂~你又说素质低下,实际上,素质最低的便是你。中国人以和为贵,你却屡屡挑事,简直是败类。

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@ checkout, I am sorry, but those are important matters and they must be discussed. The environment, engineering laws … are integral part of engineering. If you are not willing to address them, I can assure you - the Chinese companies and professionals access to certain world markets will be restricted.

@ LinjieGuo, Kind of insulting comment. So the Chinese are not racist ? I was thinking about visiting China some years ago, I was very disappointed to find out that there are murder cases in Beijing. Chinese gangs targeted couples consisted of a white man and an Asian women. I had Chinese room-mates for years, quite aware what you like and you don’t. Please do not continue to play on my nerve.

My point is China in one entity, if your government continues to protect and do nothing about the crook activities of some of the Chinese businessman – there will be applied restrictions. Probably I do not have to point cases like Huawei etc.

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嗯, 我们中国人都有种族主义,不欢迎任何 "白色"和"黑色" 洋垃圾进入中国, 这个答案您满意吗?

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据我所知, 大部分国内的淘宝店主都不喜欢做国外的生意, 因为物流不可控, 在中国快递遗失率非常低,

万一快递丢失,

1 可以向快递公司申请赔偿, 快递不赔,或者赔偿额度不满意, 可以去邮政管理局投诉, 如果还不满意, 可以去法院起诉

2 同时卖家也会重新发货

速卖通的卖家才是面向全球客户的.

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@ 好想做个有钱人, No, the question is about achieving mutual respect, avoiding conflicts etc.

@ 路人乙, Chinese companies want access to European, North American … etc. markets. If you can not provide the same level of reciprocal access and investment protection, such can not be provided to your companies. As much as I am aware some Europeans want access to the Chinese market, establishing European banks in China, our shipping companies etc.
Also the problem with the Chinese crook businesses, such as ship-forwarding companies. In the past even 晕哥 tired to speak with one of them without success. In Europe we have tools to deal with such companies – government agencies, consumer protection organizations etc.

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你们国家没骗子吗?没小偷吗?治安有中国好吗?自己不会辨别就别bibi,一个问题从19年扯到20年了烦不烦有意思吗?

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@Freeboy , We do, probably as percentage of population much more than China. I noticed on the TV the previous year a case about some Chinese tourist that were subject to robbery in Bulgaria. The Chinese were very well organized with excellent defense techniques and immediately neutralized the thief. Still, the police came and investigated the matter.

So far my experience in China is: If I can use metaphoric presentation – I was robed twice in China, but no proper actions were taken.

Speaking about such issues, the parcel contains a smart door lock:

Lock

Anyone used such ?

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#53 2020-01-06 11:10:36

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你只要承认你的国家在 淘宝所说的全国 境内 ,这个钱咱们出了

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这老外有点意思,,,,,,这年头淘宝也不好做了哦,

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#55 2020-01-06 12:56:03

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说的对,你只要承认保加利亚(Народна република България)是中国的,这运费我们出了。享受着中国的服务,还骂中国,送你一句话,get out and fuck off

Right, you just have to admit that Bulgaria (Народна република България) is China's, and we have paid the freight. Get out and fuck off

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演技担当黄晓明, The Google translate makes the translation from Chinese to English not understandable.

小智, As stated earlier – the meaning of “get out and fuck off” is insulting. Please do not use it. There is no such thing like Народна република България – People’s Republic of Bulgaria. This name was used during the communism but currently Bulgaria is a member of the European Union etc.

I wold like to thank you to all of you for your comments. Establishing that some of the Chinese products might not be suitable for the Bulgarian market etc.

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@Mitko 强烈建议不要上淘宝, 也不要购买任何中国的产品, 会影响你的心情,也会影响我们的心情。

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既然你承认了是google翻译的问题,请你向中国道歉,向中国人民道歉,是你先侮辱我们的,诬陷我们诚实的卖家是骗子,所以在你道歉前,我是不会收回那句话的


Since you admit that it was the mistake of Google translation, please apologize to China and the Chinese people. You insulted us first and framed our honest seller as a liar. So before you apologize, I will not take back that sentence


你自己脑子不好使,却说别人是骗子
You're stupid, but you call people liars

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@ win32prog , Quite agree, Hope 女神啾啾啾 to be with you. My favourite Chinese song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChHGX2_fw4

@ 小智. Regarding the term “All Chinese are liars” - my intention was not to say that, rather than the Chinese are deceitful. Actually, if you can check on the internet, one research (https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1879850/chinese-most-dishonest-japanese-and-british-least-study-finds) states that the Chinese are the most dishonest people on Earth. Considering the issues I experience with Chinese ship-forwarding companies, payments, products quality, warranty, guaranties … I am sorry, but I will not apologize.

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那你不要和中国人做生意,也别和中国人交流,别用中国制造的东西,保加利亚那点gdp,还不如我们的一个省那么多,我们不需要和你这种人做生意
Then don't do business with the Chinese, don't communicate with the Chinese, don't use the things made in China, Bulgaria's GDP is not as much as our province, we don't need to do business with people like you
全世界人民都在用中国制造,有更多的人喜欢我们,


People all over the world are using Chinese products. More people like us,

get out and fuck off

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@小智 保加利亚确定能单挑中国一个省?越南GDP也才和广西相当,就被吹上天了。

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win32prog 说:

@小智 保加利亚确定能单挑中国一个省?越南GDP也才和广西相当,就被吹上天了。

我挺尊重保加利亚人民的,不过碰上这个保加利亚人,让我对保加利亚的印象大大折扣了,严重怀疑保加利亚人的智商了,我说的是不如呀,比肯定是比不上啦

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#63 2020-01-06 17:46:08

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@Mitko https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1547190917555376067.html  原来这就是保加利亚呀? 我笑了 嘻嘻,你这么做得原因看来有历史的原因呢!!

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#64 2020-01-06 18:52:51

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@Mitko https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1547190917555376067.html  原来这就是保加利亚呀? 我笑了 嘻嘻,你这么做得原因看来有历史的原因呢!!

这个有点意思,第一次听说保加利亚。

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@daydayup, actually, nothing interesting. I’m watching these days the 李子柒Liziqi Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoC47do520os_4DBMEFGg4A, the latest video: 当腊味煲仔饭遇上胡椒猪肚鸡你又以为有故事?还是没有! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mCeQLqB7TQ), very similar traditions. There are some differences in the cuisine thought.

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My latest purchases from China turns out to be a horrible experience. Not only I was required to pay more for shipping … The latest, the package was returned twice by China customs:

2020-01-22 11:10
北京市, 退回妥投

2020-01-22 09:42
北京市, 【上地区域东三旗揽投部】安排投递,投递员:马五兵,电话:18519362604

2020-01-22 01:07
北京市, 离开【北京国际天竺处理中心】,下一站【北京新顺处理中心】

2020-01-22 00:02
北京市, 进口海关放行

2020-01-13 08:39
北京市, 退回妥投

2020-01-13 08:39
北京市, 【安定门区域金宝街】安排投递,投递员:马晓香,电话:18519363799

2020-01-13 06:35
北京市, 离开【新顺中心】,下一站【安定门区域金宝街】

Do you have in China government, organizations … I can submit a complain to ?

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真心求求你,不要再到中国/淘宝买东西了。

代表中国海关,各路淘宝卖家,各路快递员谢谢你。

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@cityf, Quite agree. Still, there is this package that is held in China. It has items that I paid for: 3204.27 CNY. In addition, I paid about 150 USD shipping fess . Please refund my money !

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@cityf, Quite agree. Still, there is this package that is held in China. It has items that I paid for: 3204.27 CNY. In addition, I paid about 150 USD shipping fess . Please refund my money !

这个洋大人,真闲得慌。为这点儿破事,折腾一两年了。
每个国家都有每个国家的文化以及习惯,你别总是把你们的习惯和文化强加在我们身上。
虽然我能看得懂英文,但是我非常讨厌你用英文在这个论坛说话,你说的英文,我看都懒得看。
天天张口一句中国骗子,闭口一句中国骗子。谁没事儿骗你那200~300块人民币?
你以为中国人还是穷得没衣服穿的年代,费这么大的劲,骗你那200~300块人民币?
要和别人打交道,首先学会了解别人的习惯、文化,而不是让全世界都来适应你。
你以为你是中国封建社会的皇帝老儿啊?放个屁大家都得说香?

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troll.png

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楼上的图片是什么梗,求解释。

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红白机 说:

楼上的图片是什么梗,求解释。

图片下面的troll是招人反感的意思。我觉得他就是说某人或者某些人招人反感,惹人讨厌。

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#73 2020-02-25 11:55:36

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红白机 说:

楼上的图片是什么梗,求解释。

双关语,一来指巨人,二来指钓鱼。

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#74 2020-02-25 16:54:58

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troll这个词很流行,特指杠精,喷子

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#75 2020-02-27 12:29:40

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坑网学习 新单词 troll troll troll troll troll

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#76 2020-02-27 14:27:38

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继续加油,争取突破100楼:cool

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继续继续,为坑哥的靠海别墅添砖加瓦。

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@OggyJFX, Apparently some of the Chinese are. I received the package after 2 months of delay. I had financial loses, replacement and substitute items were purchased from other places etc. And the ship-forwarding company demands payment. In China haven’t you heard about COMPENSATIONS ... ?
Everyone wants to hear just good things, but the Chinese ship-forwarding companies services are horrible. I had to inquire various authorities regarding this matter, spending much time and resources etc.

@Blueskull, From my observations, what I read on the media … currently the biggest trolls are the Chinese. Paying bribes to European authorities, making fake comments on Internet to promote Chinese products and services, protests etc. Please also note that the image is from a popular film. Quite doubt that the Copyright was complied with ?

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@Blueskull, From my observations, what I read on the media … currently the biggest trolls are the Chinese.

Doesn't negate the fact that you are baby crying here like a troll.

Mitko 说:

Paying bribes to European authorities, making fake comments on Internet to promote Chinese products and services, protests etc.

Did I say I consent them?

Mitko 说:

Please also note that the image is from a popular film. Quite doubt that the Copyright was complied with ?

Wiener brothers can come to me. Not really your concern.

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楼主 #80 2020-02-27 16:58:43

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@Blueskull, It seems you do not have understanding what troll means, probably you should read more before using foreign words:
Troll - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll
Internet troll - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

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As about the complains, currently the ship-forwarding company – YoyBuy demands money … In general, many Chinese do not understand it, but depending on the jurisdiction - if goods, products not delivered on time - no money.

By the way, what is the situation with the corona virus, disinfecting packages purchased from TaoBao ... ? I was reading the Chinese government started to disinfect the money in China.

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#81 2020-02-27 17:15:05

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Mitko 说:

@Blueskull, It seems you do not have understanding what troll means, probably you should read more before using foreign words:

I'm native speaker. I grew up reading English books and taking notes in English and I spent 6 years in US.

Mitko 说:

As about the complains, currently the ship-forwarding company – YoyBuy demands money …

You still didn't quite explain what exactly happened. If you can't translate them properly in Chinese, post in English.
You posted a few incidents, and they got completely smashed up.

For your first case, you said they didn't provide technical docs -- of course. What do you expect, spoon feeding you with tech support for buying a cheap module? If it's too good to be true, it is not true.

Then comes to the HiSilicon case. I have no idea what were you expecting, but expecting English documentation from a Chinese firm, especially considering the chip is actually designed in China, is not something that I'd do.

Then there is the shipping case, which I still can't comprehend what you were talking about.
It seems like you have a package shipped from China to a reshipper then to your place, but sometwhere it f*ed up, right?
And it seems like you've spent some time with the seller and reshipper, and got totally disoriented.
How about you describe things clear and let us know exactly what happened? Complaining doesn't help as none of us took your money.

Mitko 说:

In general, many Chinese do not understand it, but depending on the jurisdiction - if goods, products not delivered on time - no money.

China has its export control laws, and if your products can't be exported, the customs can forfeit them. Not saying that is the case, but there could be many cases other than you got completely scammed.
Also, when your goods leave the seller, the seller is not entitled to make sure you receive them. If your reshipper f*ed up, you still can't get a refund from the seller.
The seller either gets the returned goods, or your money. That's how it works in China. Unless they arranged the shipping and it screwed up.

Mitko 说:

By the way, what is the situation with the corona virus, disinfecting packages purchased from TaoBao ... ? I was reading the Chinese government started to disinfect the money in China.

Better safe than sorry. I wouldn't lick a package from God knows where it came from.
As for money, I really can't care. We no longer use banknotes.

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#82 2020-02-27 22:47:37

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Mitko 说:

@OggyJFX, Apparently some of the Chinese are. I received the package after 2 months of delay. I had financial loses, replacement and substitute items were purchased from other places etc. And the ship-forwarding company demands payment. In China haven’t you heard about COMPENSATIONS ... ?
Everyone wants to hear just good things, but the Chinese ship-forwarding companies services are horrible. I had to inquire various authorities regarding this matter, spending much time and resources etc.

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部分中国人行为不好,就天天说中国人都是骗子?难道你们国家就没有罪犯?你们国家就不用警察?
说中国的物流差?全世界,除了中国,哪个国家的物流能做到:一个件,6块钱人民币的运费,从广州到北京,星期一发货,星期三就到客户手里。
再说了,你买的那个模块,一个W5500加一块印制板,你是三岁小孩子吗?十几块钱人民币的东西,跨越四分之一个地球来买,运费比商品的费用都高得多。

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#83 2020-02-28 08:46:12

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继续杠,向100楼出发;上班前杠一杠,然后愉快的上班。

Mitko 说:

@Blueskull, It seems you do not have understanding what troll means, probably you should read more before using foreign words:
Troll - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll
Internet troll - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

至于troll这个词的确切含义,我没有发言权。但是你说得很对,你在用一个外国词汇的时候,应该更深入的去了解。你口口声声说中国骗子,起因就是因为你想自作聪明,去淘宝上薅羊毛(希望你能懂这个词的含义),钻那个“全国包邮”的空子,结果没成功。全中国人民都知道,“全国”指的是全中国境内,而不是全世界的国家。而你一个杠精,非得说“全国”是指全世界的国家。

你这种行为,在中国叫“双标”,你们欧美人惯用的手法而已。

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#84 2020-02-28 11:19:23

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每日一看,欣赏保加利亚的Mitko的丑态,恕我直言,会让人认为保加利亚是个连非洲小国都不如的国家。再教你一个词,SB!

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#85 2020-02-28 11:21:21

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科普下:
Troll是一种网络俚语,常见于任意英文网络论坛和其余英文文化圈中。Troll的原始含义是山怪以及一种名为撒网的钓鱼技术,最初作为网络用语是描述在公共论坛等讨论区故意用激烈的言辞引起别人进行没有意义的争论的行为,后来释义延伸为几乎所有做出令人厌恶举止的行为,不论主动还是被动的。这个词语若要翻译成中文,会根据具体情况而指代中文网络文化圈的“钓鱼”、“引战”、“洗版”、“刷屏”、“菜鸟”、“小白”。

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#86 2020-02-28 13:34:27

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k455619 说:

@k455619:科普下:故意用激烈的言辞引起别人进行没有意义的争论的行为

这个行为,应该就是“杠精”吧?

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#87 2020-02-28 15:14:39

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好激烈,我准备好了小板凳,你们继续 呀!

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#88 2020-02-28 16:24:02

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sea18c 说:

好激烈,我准备好了小板凳,你们继续 呀!

来啊,大家一起来啊,杠杠更健康。

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#89 2020-02-28 16:50:32

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同志们你们给外国人暴露这么多鸡密信息,以后战忽局的工作还怎么做,有没有考虑过后果?

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#90 2022-06-07 16:16:57

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建议多用用淘宝在说话

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#91 2024-03-12 18:38:21

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不会用淘宝,却说店家欺诈

人家包邮是给你限制首件.你一下买两件就不是首件了,这是淘宝的功能,你不会用,或者不认可这种功能,那你就换别家去下单,找到符合你的要求,去下单.单纯你通过不同数量然后得到不同的价格,这不是店家的问题,是淘宝平台的功能.你下1000个,和下100个均价都不同,你下1个和下2个,也均价不同,当然邮费也可以设置不同,1000个的邮费可能超过1kg,也可能不会给你包邮,或者店家也可能给你均价更优惠,这些都是平台可以自动设置的

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